few days back, the pope died. pope was considered not only as a religious leader, but as a world leader. he stood against various evils like communism, imperialism, capital punishment, terrorism etc. nothwithstanding, he presided over the roman catholic church at the vatican for almost 30 years. to this great man & spiritual leader, i salute.
well.. i came across a blog about pope's death. instead of commiserating on his death, the blogger kept mentioning pope is not essential for the religious beliefs to continue. then came the confllict between the church and religion. in this blog, i will be mentioning abt importance of church and the concept of faith.
to start of with, the creation of church was due to a religion called christianity. A religion is created when a group of people have same faith. It can be term as an organization or community of people following the same ideology. as far as christianity goes, the faith was brought up by Jesus christ himself. Ther were small number of followers at his time. as time passed by, more and more people started believing in the faith and converted into this religion. the church was built to spread this faith and belief all over the world. and it has been serving its purpose till date.
religion and faith go hand in hand. without faith or belief, ther cannot exist religion. Faith is a belief of existence of the supreme god. and religion is the practice which is being followed to maintain faith.
as for church, its one of the means of promoting faith. i consider this as an important means too cause it brings togetherness. people have the misconception that going to church is essential to show their faith towards god. but i dont agree with this. one can communicate with god thru his own heart if he has strong belief. but most people dont have such strong faith., therby making the purpose of church essential.
Many religions emphazise the importance of faith to people thru various customs and rituals. and the church plays a very important role in conducting the above mentioned. In a modern world, where science and technology has conquered the minds of people, its very important tht faith is maintained, and i strongly believe that church makes sure the faith remains.
faith, religion, and church are interconnected. yet weakly. without the church, the religion would still survive and faith would still remain. but the absence of church, means weakening of faith. it will diminish gradually.
this question was well put up in dan brown's Da Vinci Code. now i ask: what will happen if all the theories put up by dan brown turns out to be true?? the roman catholic church will surely fall they were the one who modified the bible. but will the faith in people who follow the religion, still remain??
Many of them associate themselves with an organized religion because they see the religious community as a means of maintaining and strengthening their Faith in fellowship with other believers. and they see the church organization as a means of preserving their faith.
pope was the leader of the roman catholic church for so many years. he has maintained peace all over the world and has proved to be a able leader. his contributions towards christianity should not be underestimated.
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I don't see how this can be considered an answer to my blog post. Anyways, here are my points of arguments:
1. "to start of with, the creation of church was due to a religion called christianity." In my blog, I'm talking about church in the general sense and not just the Roman Catholic Church.
2. It's true that I am not being commiserating about the pope's death. And yes, I think that his death is not really essential to the general scheme of things. People are affected, I give you that. The pope is a very sympathetic figure so it's hard to see one such as he pass away.
3. It is true that the creation of church is due to the presence of religion. I never said otherwise. What I'm saying is that religion can exist without the church. And this leads us to:
4. "A religion is created when a group of people have same faith. It can be term as an organization or community of people following the same ideology." I think you mistake church for religion. They are two separate concepts although they are connected. Both are anchored strongly on faith. Faith is fostered through them. But religion concerns itself more with the individual while the church concerns itself more with the community. And,
5. "but most people dont have such strong faith, thereby making the purpose of church essential." Essential only for some. And faith, no matter how weak, is still faith.
nice post!
Firstly, Id say that no Institution ever in the History of time has survived as long as the Roman Catholic Church.
The Church has been attacked often for its stand on various issues.But I believe when you are representing a large section of people around the World you ought to take a stand on certain issues,else you are misleading people.
THe Pope is the highest authority in the R.C Church.He is not just a "sympathetic figure". Why else would heads of State such as George Bush ,Tony Blair & Jacques Chirac come for his funeral?
As for the Christian religion.Id say its largely a state of mind.I guess we all know that by going to Church alone ,you cannot be a true Christian.
I really don agree with what jute says
"THe Pope is the highest authority in the R.C Church.He is not just a "sympathetic figure". Why else would heads of State such as George Bush ,Tony Blair & Jacques Chirac come for his funeral?"
Because they want to pay their respects? That is personal choice on their parts. I'm talking about the general scheme of things. The death of one man won't necessarily affect the whole.
You are entitled to your opinion, loa_naissus. But let me ask you this, if you are gone, would the world stop spinning?
The world was here before you were. It will still be here after you are gone. Your passing away does not affect how the world works. It does not affect the general scheme of things.
The same thing can be said of the pope. He is a venerable man. But he is still a man. Many will come after him, perhaps not as influential, perhaps not as loved. But they will come, and in time, people will forget about him and will only recognize him from history books.
Pls. do not misunderstand. I am a Catholic and I grieve for the pope in my own way, too. The post I made was purely for academic purposes and little to do with my own personal feelings.
Good post fubbu,
and evn though i do not agree in totality with either you or jute, i must appreciated and respect your thoughts and effort.
however, when you say
Many religions emphazise the importance of faith to people thru various customs and rituals
tell me, do u really think faith needs to be emphasised upon.
Is there a need of an external force or agency, infact anybody other than our own consciene to develop, and sustain, faith in us.
Acc. to me,customs and rituals are blatantly unnecessary and misused "tools" of emphasising faith or religion...
You may call them interconnected but I still believe that faith is a much stronger nad wholesome thing han religion.
Still that's my own opinion!
well said kiddo(envisager)..
its true some of these rituals and customs may mislead you. found in abundant in hindu rituals.
as for faith, well.. i think needs to be maintained. when people tend to lose hope, they start losing faith, and become atheists.
church makes sure that faith remains. they preach abt god, and makes us believe tht ther still exists the supreme lord.
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that's a great post prematura..to think you're a non-Catholic.
let me say this...jute, like everyone else, is entitled to her own opinion. but let us be very careful on what we say whether it may be factual or otherwise, especially when it comes to religion.
the pope's death will certainly become another part of world history, but we should not forget that Pope John Paul II, himself helped 'us' shape history in a way no other pope had done. that's why all these leaders came to pay their respect to this man. He was larger than life..no doubt!
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